And they would say, I dont want to go to yoga. And I was like, Why? And they said, I just dont want anyone telling me when to breathe.. And one of them this is also on The Hurting Kind is Lover, which is page 77. Good, good. This is a gift. And that reframing was really important to me. Theres whole books about how to breathe. Limn: Yeah. So Sundays were a different kind of practice, if you will, a different kind of observation. [laughter] Where some of you were like, Eww, as soon as I said it. Tippett: Which also makes it spiritual practice. The phrase mental health itself makes less and less sense in light of the wild interactivity we can now see between what weve falsely compartmentalized as physical, emotional, mental, even spiritual. So can we just engage in this intellectual exercise with you because its completely fascinating and Im not sure whats going on, and Id like you to tell me. The thesis has never been exile. Limn: Yeah, there wasnt a religious practice. This might be hard for some of you right here. The caesura and the line breaks, its breath. for the water to stop shivering out of the I feel like the short poem, maybe read that one, the After the Fire poem is such a wonderful example of so much of what weve been talking about, how poetry can speak to something that is impossible to speak about. Tippett: And then a trauma of the pandemic was that our breathing became a danger to strangers and beloveds. But I also feel a little bit out of practice with this live event thing. like water, elemental, and best when its humbled, brought to its knees, clung to by someone who. Krista Tippett is the creator and host of the On Being and Becoming Wise podcasts as well as curator of The Civil Conversations Project. And I think it was that. And now Tippett has done it again. On Being with Krista Tippett On Being Studios Society & Culture 4.6 9.1K Ratings; A season of big, new, beautiful On Being conversations is here. What was it? But we dont need to belabor that. Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. And its funny to tell people that youre raised an atheist because theyre like, Really? But I was. by being not a witness, And I feel like theres a level of mystery thats allowed in the poem that feels like, Okay, I can maybe read this into it, I can put myself into it, and it becomes sort of its own thing. All came, and still comes, from the natural world. And then Ill say this, that the Library of Congress, theyre amazing, and the Librarian of Congress, Dr. Carla Hayden, had me read this poem, so. It unfolded at the Ted Mann Concert Hall in Minneapolis, in collaboration with Northrop at the University of Minnesota and Ada Limns publisher, Milkweed Editions. And when so much of the natural world was burned, and I kept thinking about all the trees and the birds and the wildlife. They are honoring and recovering the fullness of the human experience the life of the mind, the truth of the body, the wild mystery of the spirit, and our need for each other. Im really longing I realized as I was preparing for this, Im just Of course, I read poetry, I read a lot of poetry in these last years, but I realized Im craving hearing poetry. Okay, Im going to give you some choices. Theres shower silent and bath silent and California silent and Kentucky silent and car silent and then theres a silence that comes back, a million times bigger than me, sneaks into my bones and wails and wails and wails until I cant be quiet anymore. Yeah. "On Being," a weekly interview show about the mysteries of human existence, hosted by Krista Tippett, airs on nearly 400 public radio stations, with more than half a million weekly listeners . Limn: Yeah. two brains now. Limn: I think the failure of language is what really draws me to poetry in general. I write the year, seems like a year you And it wasnt until really, when I was writing that poem that the word came to me. The science of awe. My grandmother is 98. the collar, constriction of living. And to not have that bifurcated for a moment. Is where that poem came from. One of the most popular episodes in the history of "On Being," the 15-year-old public-radio program hosted by the honey-voiced Krista Tippett, is a conversation Tippett had more than ten years ago with the late Irish poet and philosopher John O'Donohue on the subject of the inner landscape of beauty. A season of big, new, beautiful On Being conversations is here. I do think I enjoy it. Tippett: And I also just wondered if that experience of loving sound and the cadence of this language that was yours and not yours, if that also flowed into this love of poetry. Ive got a bone. Yet what Amanda has gone on to investigate and so, so helpfully illuminate is not just about journalism, or about politics. Winters icy hand at the back of all of us. s wisdom and her poetry a refreshing, full-body experience of how this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being human at all times, but especially now. With an unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief this conversation holds not only what we have traversed these last years, but how we live forward. Its wonderful. But let me say, I was taken, back and forth on Sundays and it was not easy, but I was loved each place. Limn: When I lived in New York City, my two best friends, I would always try to get them to go to yoga with me. Definitely. , there are these two poems on facing pages, that both have fire in the title. Because how do we care for one another? A season of big, new, beautiful On Being conversations is here. We were so focused on survival and illness and vaccines and bad news. Just uncertainty is so hard on our bodies. My familys all in California. SHARE 'It's a hard time in the life of the world' a conversation with Krista Tippett. And I think most poets are drawn to that because it feels like what were always trying to do is say something that cant always entirely be said, even in the poem, even in the completed poem. So I think there was a lot of, not only was it music, but then it was music in Spanish. Yeah. And the last voice that you hear singing at the end of our show is Cameron Kinghorn. . I grew up in Glen Ellen in Sonoma, California, born and raised. In all kinds of lives, in all kinds of places, they are healers and social creatives. Krista Tippett is a Peabody-award winning broadcaster, National Humanities Medalist, and New York Times bestselling author. And I feel like theres a level of mystery thats allowed in the poem that feels like, Okay, I can maybe read this into it, I can put myself into it, and it becomes sort of its own thing. Free shipping for many products! To love harder? Yeah. To be made whole beneath us, and I was just Right now we are in a fast river together every day there are changes that seemed unimaginable until they occurred. adrienne maree brown and others use many words and phrases to describe what she does, and who she is: A student of complexity. Thats how this machine works. Yeah. Tippett: I chose a couple of poems that you wrote again that kind of speak to this. And enough so that actually, as I would always sort of interrogate her about her beliefs and, Do you think this, do you think that? Yeah. Was there a religious or spiritual background in your childhood there, however you would describe that now? Many have turned to David Whyte for his gorgeous, life-giving poetry and his wisdom at the interplay of theology, psychology, and leadership his insistence on the power of a beautiful question and of everyday words amidst the drama of work as well as the drama of life. If youre having trouble writing or creating or whatever it is you make, when was the last time you just sat in silence with yourself and listened to what was happening? thats sung in silence when its too hard to go on, that sounds like someones rough fingers weaving, into anothers, that sounds like a match being lit, in an endless cave, the song that says my bones. And now we have watched it in these 25 years go from strength, to strength, to strength. And were at a new place, but we have to carry and process that. recycling bin until you say, Man, we should really learn At human pace, they are enlivening the world that they can see and touch. Its still the elements. Limn: Kind of true. I mean, isnt this therapeutic also for us all to laugh about this now, also to know that we can laugh about it now? Limn: and you forget how to breathe. Tippett: To be made whole/ by being not a witness,/ but witnessed. Can you say a little bit about that? Tippett: Well, a lot of us I think are still a little agoraphobic. And there was an ease, I think, that living in the head-only world was kind of a poets dream on some level. Ive got a bone I think thats something we didnt know how to talk about. . Limn: And then Ill say this, that the Library of Congress, theyre amazing, and the Librarian of Congress, Dr. Carla Hayden, had me read this poem, so. and hand, the space between. And so I think my investigation or my curiosity is not so much talking about poetry, but about where poetry comes from in us and what poetry works in us. Yeah. 25 Sep. 2014. cigarette smoke or expertise in recipes or Then in 2018, she published a brilliant essay called "Complicating the Narratives," which she opened by confessing a professional existential crisis. Were back at the natural world of metaphors and belonging. Too high for most of us with the rockets I think there were these moments that that quietness, that aloneness, that solitude, that as hard as they were, I think hopefully weve learned some lessons from that. And I always thought it was just because I had to work. What. This is like a self-care poem. Before the road And then I kept thinking, What are the other things I can do that with?. I just saw her. I think its very dangerous not to have hope. Page 20. You ever think you could cry so hard And what of the stanzas, we never sing, the third that mentions no refuge, could save the hireling and the slave? Once, I sang it at homecoming and threw I just saw her. no hot gates, no house decayed. I almost think that this poem could be used as a meditation. The fear response, the stress response, it had so many other kinds of ripple effects that were so perplexing. And I remember sitting on my sofa where I spent an inordinate amount of time, and reading it. No shoes and a glossy Shes written, Science polishes the gift of seeing, Indigenous traditions work with gifts of listening and language. An expert in moss a bryologist she describes mosses as the coral reefs of the forest. Robin Wall Kimmerer opens a sense of wonder and humility for the intelligence in all kinds of life we are used to naming and imagining as inanimate. And also, I read somewhere that Sundays were a day that you were moving back and forth between your two homes, your parents divorced and everybody remarried. So you get to have this experience with language that feels somewhat disjointed, and in that way almost feels like, Oh, this makes more sense as the language for our human experience than, lets say, a news report.. No, really I was. and snowshoes, maple and seeds, samara and shoot, Two entirely different brains. Limn: That you can be joyful and you can actually be really having a wonderful time. Page 87. that thered be nothing left in you, like, until every part of it is run through with, days a little hazy with fever and waiting, for the water to stop shivering out of the. until every part of it is run through with I feel like that between space, that liminal space, is a place where we were living for so long, and many of us still living in that between space of, How do I go into the world safely, and how do I move through the world with safety and care-take myself and care-take others. I have people who ask me, How do you write poems? And you talk about process. You should take a nap. [laughter] I know its cruel. Our conversations create openings. Tippett: A lot of them are in the On Being studio, they come in the mail. I live in the low parts now, most But I also feel a little bit out of practice with this live event thing. People will ask me a lot about my process and it is, like I said, silence. On her show she promoted her new book, Einstein's God, and if the show is any indication, this new enterprise promises to be a fun fest for people inclined . On Being with Krista Tippett. wind? And it often falls apart from me. I feel like the short poem, maybe read that one, the After the Fire poem is such a wonderful example of so much of what weve been talking about, how poetry can speak to something that is impossible to speak about. Limn: There was a bit of like, Eww, lover. [laughter], Easy light storms in through the window, soft I think there are things we all learned also. And: advance invitations and news on all things On Being, of course, The On Being Project Learn more at kalliopeia.org. Limn: Oh, thank you. My body is for me.. Before the divorce. Tippett: I do feel like you were one of the people who was really writing with care and precision and curiosity about what we were going through. All of this, as Dacher sees it now, led him deeper and deeper into investigating the primary experience of awe in human life moments when we have a sense of wonder, an experience of mystery, that transcends our understanding. with a new hosta under the main feeder. capture, capture, capture. And I was having this moment where I kept being like, Well, if I just deeply look at the world like I do, as poets do, I will feel a sense of belonging. Tippett: And poetry is absolutely this is not something I knew would happen when I started this but poetry now is at the heart of On Being, its woven through everything. I spoke with Ada Limn at the Ted Mann Concert Hall in Minneapolis. We prioritize busyness. Youre going to be like, huh. Or youll just be like, That makes total sense to me., The thesis. You said a minute ago that the poetry has breath built into it, and you said also that, you have said: its meant to make us breathe. And you mentioned that when you wrote this, when was it that you wrote it? And I was feeling very isolated. Youll see why in a minute. I love that you do this. And yet at the same time, I do feel like theres this Its so much power in it. Its the . Krista Tippett has spent more than a decade exploring important questions of life, questions that often involve faith, science and spirituality on her popular radio program and podcast, "On Being." And place is always place. It is the world and the trees and the grasses and the birds looking back. Talk about any of the limits of language, the failure of language. To be swallowed One of the most fascinating developments of our time is that human qualities we have understood in terms of virtue experiences weve called spiritual are now being taken seriously by science as intelligence as elements of human wholeness. the trash, the rolling containers a song of suburban thunder. Exit And the Sonoma Coast is a really special place in terms of how its been preserved and protected throughout the years. And so its giving room to have those failures be a breaking open and for someone else to stand in it and bring whatever they want to it. I could. And the one Id love you to read is Not the Saddest Thing in the World. This is the one where I felt like theres subtlety to it, but you just named so much in there. Tippett: I wrote in my notes, just my little note about what this was about, recycling and the meaning of it all. I dont think thats [laughter]. The thesis is still the wind. The thesis is still a river. The thesis has never been exile., Yeah. Unknown. I feel like theres so many elements to that discovery. Yes I am. But I trust those moments. [laughter] But I think you are a prodigy for growing older and wiser. Do you remember the Colbert Report when Stephen Colbert was doing the earlier show, and he had this one skit where he said, I love breathing, I could do it all day long. [laughter] And I always think about that because of course, its so ironic that we have to think about our breath. So its this weird moment of being aware of it and then also letting it go at the same time. chaotic track. if we declared a clean night, if we stopped being terrified, if we launched our demands into the sky, made ourselves so big. So I love it when I feel like the conversations Im having start to be in conversation with each other. No, theres so much to enjoy. Wisdom Practices and Digital Retreats (Coming in 2023). The bright side is not talked about. And now Ill just say it again: they are the publisher of the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. During her 20-plus years as host of public radio's "On Being" show which aired on some 400 stations across the country Krista Tippett and her beautifully varied slate of guests . Nov 28, 2022. Image by Danyang Ma, All Rights Reserved. And this poem was basically a list of all the poems I didnt think I could write, because it was the early days of the pandemic, and I kept thinking, just that poetry had kind of given up on me, I guess. But I think there was something deeper going on there, which was that idea of, Oh, this is when you pack up and you move. And I even had a pet mouse named Fred, which you would think I wouldve had a more creative name for the mouse, but his name was Fred. She hosts the On Being podcast and leads The On Being Project, a non-profit media and public life initiative that pursues deep thinking and moral imagination, social courage and joy, towards the renewal of inner life, outer life, and life together. The Fetzer Institute, supporting a movement of organizations applying spiritual solutions to societys toughest problems. Between the ground and the feast is where I live now. That really spoke to me, on my sofa. I would say about 50 percent, maybe 60 percent of it was written during the pandemic. Can you locate that? But each of us has callings, not merely to be professionals, but to be friends, neighbors, colleagues, family, citizens, lovers of the world. The poets brain is always like that, but theres a little I was just doing the wash, and I was like, Casual, warm, and normal. And I was like, Ooh, I could really go for that.. And just as there are callings for a life, there are callings for our time. We are in the final weeks as On Being evolves to its next chapter in a world that is evolving, each of us changed in myriad ways weve only begun to process and fathom. just the bottlebrush alive Tippett: Look at all these people. Stood for the many mute mouths of the sea, of the land? And Im not sure Ive had a conversation across all these years that was a more unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief. No, to the rising tides. Oh, Im stressed. Oh, if you want to know about stress, let me tell you, Im stressed., I like to tell my friends when they say theyre really stressed, Ill be like, Oh, I took the most wonderful nap. SHARE. The fear response, the stress response, it had so many other kinds of ripple effects that were so perplexing. Oh, thank you. Like, Oh, take a deep breath. Then we get annoyed when it works, too. We prioritize busyness. And then what we find in the second poem is a kind of evolution. He works with wood, and he works with other people who work with their hands making beautiful, useful things. We point out the stars that make Orion as we take out On Being with Krista Tippett. Also because so much of whats been and again, its not just in the past, what has happened, has been happening below the level of consciousness in our bodies. Amanda Ripley began her life as a journalist covering crime, disaster, and terrorism. So its a very special place. And coming in future weeks, is a conversation with a technologist and artist named James Bridle, whose point is that language itself, the sounds we made and the words we finally formed, and the imagery and the metaphors were all primally, organically rooted in the natural world of which we were part. Krista Tippett leaves public radio. And thought, How am I right now at this moment? Okay. out. I get four parents that come to the school nights. And I felt like I was not brave enough to own that for myself. Because I couldnt decide which ones I wanted you to read. Our lovely theme music is provided and composed by Zo Keating. I just set my wash settings to who Id like to be in 2023: Casual, Warm, Normal., Yeah, that was true. enough of the animal saving me, enough of the high The people who gather around On Being are part of the generative narrative of our time. And the Sonoma Coast is a really special place in terms of how its been preserved and protected throughout the years. And I feel like the thing that always kept coming back to me, especially in the early days was, What does it do? Well right now it anchors you to the world again and again and again. Shes written six books of poetry, most recently, The Hurting Kind. the Red River Gorge, the fistful of land left That is real but its not the whole story of us. If you would like to hear an uplifting message at a time of global difficulty, come hear Krista Tippett speak at Central Congregational Church in Providence RI at 6:30 pm, Saturday, December 3. Find them at fetzer.org. Musings and tools to take into your week. We havent read much from, , which is a wonderful book. Tippett: No, theres so much to enjoy. Talk about any of the limits of language, the failure of language. And this poem was basically a list of all the poems I didnt think I could write, because it was the early days of the pandemic, and I kept thinking, just that poetry had kind of given up on me, I guess. Subscribe to the live your best life newsletter Sign up for the oprah.com live your best life newsletter Get more stories like this delivered to your inbox Get updates on your favorite . And so I gave up on it. whats larger within us, toward how we were born. And shes animated by questions emerging from those loves and from the science she does which we scarcely know how to take seriously amidst so much demoralizing bad ecological news. It touches almost every aspect of human life in almost every society around the world right now. Im really glad youre enjoying it because theres many more decades. I think thats very true. And so much of what were seeing brings us back to intelligence that has always been in the very words we use gut instinct, for instance. But if you look at even the letters we use in our the A actually was initially a drawing of an ox, and M was water. How are you?. to pick with whoever is in charge. Limn: I do think I enjoy it. Its still the elements. Limn: I think its definitely a writing prompt too, right? And I was in the backyard by myself, as many of us were by ourselves. several years later and a changed world later. I feel like it brings us back to wholeness somehow. So I want to do two more, also from. Articles by Krista Tippett on Muck Rack. And then you go, Oh no, no, thats just recycling. So thats in the poem. I feel like that between space, that liminal space, is a place where we were living for so long, and many of us still living in that between space of, How do I go into the world safely, and how do I move through the world with safety and care-take myself and care-take others. Each of us imprints the people in the world around us, breath to breath and hour to hour, as much in who we are and how we are present as in whatever we do. fact-like take the trowel, plant the limp body And you also wrote about that, and you also wrote this essay. And I want you to read it. And it was just me, the dog, and the cat, and the trees. Limn: And hes like, Are you trying to ask me what the weather is? [laughter] Im like, Yes. The Osprey Foundation a catalyst for empowered, healthy, and fulfilled lives. I am too used to nostalgia now, a sweet escape, of age. And we were given to remember that civilization is built on something so tender as bodies breathing in proximity to other bodies. joy, foundational, that brief kinship of hold But I do think youre a bit of a So the thing is, we have this phrase, old and wise. But the truth is that a lot of people just grow old, it doesnt necessarily come with it. Or call 1-800-MY-APPLE. Silence, which we dont get enough of. So would you read, its called Before, page 46. Yeah, because its made with words, but its also sensory and its bodily. days a little hazy with fever and waiting But in reality its home to so many different kind of wildlife. Tippett has interviewed guests ranging from poets to physicists, doctors to historians, artists to activists. We know joy to be a life-giving, resilience-making human birthright. But you said I dont know, I just happened to be I saw you again today. 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