But do you think Queen Nicola would accept trains branded as "Rail England" coming across the border? Roofs were Dark Grey and underframes originally brown, but later black. However, these bodies will be required to coordinate with GBR to deliver a single national rail network, including one website and app, as well as following national branding and passenger standards. It is known as Great because it is the largest island in the British Isles, and houses the countries of England, Scotland and Wales within its shores. GBR is not quite the same, so they no doubt want it to be seen as distinct; plus, it may not even be possible to call it BR, there might be legal implications (just a guess). 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It still has to look good decades from now. The creation of Great British Railways (GBR) has been dubbed as the end to "a quarter-century of fragmentation" and a means to provide "accountable national leadership". Someone will design a great livery in the future and someone else will design a crap livery. With the reorganisation of British Railways in the mid-1960s, a complete break with the past was signalled by the introduction of a blue and grey livery which dominated all passenger rolling stock until the mid-1980s, when a new Intercity livery (dark grey and beige with a red and white waistband) was introduced along with a number of regional colour schemes. The Tories, particulary this present mob of throwbacks, have long since co-opted the "great" in "Great Britain" to mean "very good"and it's xenophobic, imperialist undertones me me want to vomit. Non-corridor coaching stock and other multiple units received all-over Rail Blue until about 1980, when most received the same blue/grey livery as corridor coaching stock. Privacy Noticeand Website Accessibility. I suspect not many. In all of your concepts the Rail Symbol (double-arrow) is far too large for the accompanying lettering, if you're looking to be guided by the original design rules. If it was, that format would not be used by: If you need any proof, they've also just done the same with 'Great British Nuclear'. [8] The review had been launched in September 2018 and was led by Keith Williams. [16] A public vote was held following the announcement.[16]. Anyone got a suggestion for the government's latest bright idea today along the same lines, '. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Interesting mock up doublearrow on Twitter just posted: What problem is this supposed to be fixing? Railfreight livery, a colour scheme specifically for freight locomotives, was unveiled when Class 58 58001 drove through a plastic screen at Doncaster Works on 9 December 1982. Then theres the question of livery. Much closer to what I was meaning (thanks. Because it was a nationalised industry run by the British Government. Sadly cream on modern stock looks quite bad, or I suspect one incarnation of GWR might have tried it white might work ok instead. The history of British Rail's corporate liveries is quite complex. don't see an issue anywhere, as long as the concessions stay branded with whatever. Also, yes, the actual report has a typo, it really does say 'refect' instead of 'reflect'. Also, like I said, it's possible that they legally can't call it BR. But such an approach offers a bleak long-term outlook for the UK. How about that but the double arrow in red? BRs own history says otherwise. [citation needed]. With the publication of the Williams review and the announcement of the renationalization of British Passenger Rail, i thought i might help out anyone exited for new liveries or branding for trains. [14] While this livery had much in common with the "Large Logo" version of Rail Blue livery, including the yellow cabs and larger logo and numbers on the bodyside, the main colour was grey rather than blue. For this new venture a new livery - a paler shade of blue than Rail Blue, with three stripes of white, red and grey - was created with Class 47 No.47573 The London Standard painted in the new livery specifically for the launch ceremony. It does affect other devolved rail operators, including ScotRail, Transport for Wales, London Overground, Elizabeth line (Crossrail), and Merseyrail, as well as the combined authorities that oversee other local railway networks in England. With the publication of the Williams review and the announcement of the renationalization of British Passenger Rail, i thought i might help out anyone exited for new liveries or branding for trains.. This included many of the features which were later incorporated in the Mark 2, and trialled in an experimental train designated XP64. I do also like the theory that these regions they mention will be named after old railway companies. Bare minimum. Once we lose TOC branding I certainly think service categories need to return, if only on the Dutch basis of them only describing service patterns rather than anything else. The British Rail Class 31 diesel locomotives, also known as the Brush Type 2 and previously as Class 30, were built by Brush Traction from 1957-62. The 25 kV electric locomotives were painted from new in a striking shade of bright blue which was known as "Electric Blue". It really does look dire. It is not necessary to have it on platform signs as if you don't know you are on the railway when you see them there probably isn't much hope for you. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I suppose they are quite bland. I don't think there would ever be multiple logos for Great British Railways as you've alluded to - it would make it complicated for the end passenger. If Scotland leaves the UK it must become British Rail as Britain is defined as just England & Wales! The wholly superior vision of the Campaign for Equal Citizenship is long abandoned. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. British Railways coaches in the crimson and cream livery used from 1949 Discussions on the livery for British Railways coaching stock in 1948 eventually settled on a network-wide two-tone livery of crimson and cream for corridor coaches, with all-over crimson being used for local, non-corridor stock. "Great" means "large", not "very good". Blue Pullman in grey and blue livery arriving at Bristol Temple Meads in 1973. [7], Under Network Rail, all stations are formally in public hands since 2014, but only 20 (mainly large termini and central stations) are managed directly by it. Please can you explain the advantage of such a nationwide livery? Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread . For example, the Midland Railway abolished Second-class on 1 st . Due to the small number of units repainted it was common to see trains with two or more units in different liveries. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. [7], GBR will use a slightly modified British Rail Double Arrow and the Rail Alphabet 2 typeface for branding. This colour was applied to all diesel and electric locomotives, with the exception of the ends, which were painted yellow to improve visibility, and the underframes and buffer beams which were painted black; the paints being to BSS 2660-0.003 and BSS 2660-9.103 respectively. Upon sectorisation, most secondary passenger routes which did not fall under the InterCity or Network SouthEast banner were re-designated as Regional Railways (originally Provincial). This error in colour identification comes from an article and question published in a Model Railway Magazine in the 1950s, where the responding editor made the error, and it has frequently been repeated since then. Why not capitalize on it? In the days of signs being hand painted/stencilled on enamel I would agree, but it is so much easier to make stuff look good these days that there is really no excuse for this sort of thing. GBR is similar enough to channel some continuity with BR but distinct enough to admit it's a different entity. I'm inclined to disagree. Likes Received: 1,930. Could GBRTT be right for you? A nod to the past in the liveries would be nice like with the modern GWR too. The colours were chosen to be different from those of any of the "Big Four" pre-nationalisation railway companies while retaining a traditional aspect. The Great British Railways Transition Team (GBRTT) seeks to deliver the most ambitious changes to our railways in a generation, working with the government and across the rail sector. It's not going to be called Rail England and if it was, there'd be nothing "Queen Nicola" could do about it. I'm working on building a GBR brand from the ground up for the next few days (my calendar is completely empty), starting with a logo. Variants to the national brand will be developed to refect the English regions, Scotland and Wales, while emphasising that the railway is one network serving the whole of Great Britain. Home Forums So even if that doesn't become the actual 'GBR' logo it will likely see some use on stations and maybe trains. Most of this nostalgia is from people who aren't old enough to remember just how rubbish latter day BR often was. Given the furious backlash over the Protocol, as well as the ill-managed disappointment that was the two parties 2010 link-up (under the awful acronym UCUNF), one can understand why Northern Irish politicians shy away from the Tories. Existing leases of stations to devolved transport authorities will continue. Variants where the band was blue (outer suburban) or green (inner suburban) instead of orange were planned, but never implemented.[15]. And why call it G-BR if it's nothing like BR? 3,609. thomalex said: One of the big ones is an end to endless rebranding of trains when the operator changes with various bit of old livery hanging about for a long time, never mind the cost and waste involved. JavaScript is disabled. GBR will own all stations and most infrastructure in Great Britain. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; And although BR did changes, it was still the same basic livery really. It isnt hard to believe that there may be some truth to the suggestion that Johnson would be less cavalier in his treatment of Ulster if it returned even a handful of Government MPs. The XP64 train was used to test technology and carriage arrangements for the planned Mark 2 coaches. Although from the mid-1960s to the 1980s the organisation was associated with "Rail Blue", a number of other schemes were also used, especially when it was split into operating units or "sectors" in the mid-1980s. The colour often appears inaccurately in photographs, generally appearing brighter and bluer than the real colour. There is surely a case at least for putting the cross-border inter-city services in national colours (perhaps an updated take on Network SouthEast), to match the saltires splashed all over Scotrail trains. [8], Class 501 train in Rail Blue calls at Harrow and Wealdstone, Class 416 train in British Rail blue/grey livery calls at Dalston Kingsland station. It may not display this or other websites correctly. This style of livery was also used by CSX Transportation. Messages: 1,398. The Transport Secretary announced on 19 October 2022 that the Transport Bill which would have set up GBR would not go ahead in the current parliamentary session.[2]. The name is still awful though and far too long. Because it's not going to be the same as BR. Not everyone has a smartphone and when the PIS is not working, I find it good to know where we've stopped. Last week Doug Beattie, the newly-installed leader of the Ulster Unionist Party, hit out at Boris Johnson. In the early years the colour faded quite badly, becoming lighter and paler with time although this problem had been overcome by the late 1970s. Just like when a new TOC has taken on a franchise, the old TOC name gets removed and the new TOC name gets badged in top, like a big rectangular sticker. Great British Railways: Livery, branding and appearance? But the point is that effort has gone into developing a brand and what it stands for, it isn't just harking back to the awful 1970s, a time people seem to be seeing with a large pair of rose tinted spectacles. Agree, having at least 'intercity', 'regional' and 'metro' would be good. Antrim Princess Sealink ferry underway in Larne with Sealink letters. Thus Class 47 47170 County of Norfolk, allocated to Stratford and a regular performer on trains between Liverpool Street and Norwich, was painted in Large Logo livery. particularly associated with the depots at Old Oak Common and [16] As well as rolling stock and multiple units, a number of Class 47 and Class 50 locomotives dedicated to Network SouthEast passenger services were painted in this livery. "Great" means "large", not "very good". Something timeless. | Page 27 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. The 1948 trials brought LMS Class 5s, and GWR Kings and Castles in lined light green and lined blue, with incorrect suggestions that two different blues were used. The British Railway official livery for meat & fish vans (and other stock which normally travelled in passenger trains) was originally crimson with yellow lettering. I'm not convinced "InterCity" services warrant different branding now, as they are no longer of premium quality in terms of service provision; in many case they're just regional or commuter services (thinks XC and GWR in particular). The bottom one is basically Serco era Northern signage, and does look good to me, though I would go for a subtle double arrow in the bottom right as I said earlier, and omit the GBR text. Swiss rail. Sadly cream on modern stock looks quite bad, or I suspect one incarnation of GWR might have tried it white might work ok instead. Or do you think TfL should change their look away from using the current font simply because it's been that way since the 1930s or whenever? [4] One locomotive, Class 47 No.D1733, was painted to match the coaching stock. Despite the InterCity brand having been introduced in 1966, in 1985 the word 'Executive' was dropped and the livery was applied to all coaches and many locomotives used on InterCity services. for some form of co-branding. The British Isles is a the collection of European islands consisting of Great Britain, the island of Ireland, Isle of Man and the northern islands that are part of Scotland. Why could GBR franchises not do the same? It appears that while the plan is to brand all trains under GBR with one branding, that plan involves a much longer time scale: . Yes i like it, very clean and professional looking. Press J to jump to the feed. Still makes me cringe everytime I see/read 'Great' in front of anything British since this mob got in. Search for a trade mark - Intellectual Property Office (ipo.gov.uk), https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/912009372292780033, Somewhere along the West Anglia Main Line. And although BR did changes, it was still the same basic livery really. It will replace Network Rail as the operator of rail infrastructure across all of Great Britain (excluding some Valley Lines in Wales and some Merseyrail lines). Now the charge of English nationalism is a tedious, largely Remainer trope that I have dealt with elsewhere. Also on the Eastern Region, Class 55 Deltic locomotives based at Finsbury Park acquired white surrounds to their cab windows. The text won't be centred vertically with the logo. Managed to get a look at a new proposed one: But my point is that DB have had the same basic livery for so long. Due to the consequent muddle of liveries, many trains began to get an untidy if not tatty appearance which added to the run-down image of the railway. The whole GBR thing is complicated as you have ScotRail and TfW already as separate brands that won't change, yet using "Rail England" or whatever is going to provoke outrage where services run by "English" operators go into Scotland and Wales (which rather ignores the same the other way round!). This long term strategy for rail will be a landmark resource, enabling a clear and agreed direction for the railway. This livery suited these diesel hydraulic classes, and allowed the Western Region to once again show a degree of independence; it was not applied to any other diesel or electric classes (other than the Class 42/43 "Warships"). Instead, I just added an icon next to the full text and removed it from the main station name. Its not as if they need the advertising, nor do their brands carry the historic and emotional heft that the famous schemes of the genuinely private railways did. the report stated that there would be some update to the double arrow, though not what that update would be. RM 2A03J14 - Sittingbourne, Kent, UK. [9][10] Several other Class 47 locomotives, some Class 31s, and even some DMU cabs, were subsequently also painted by Stratford with grey roofs, the variation becoming something of a trademark for the depot. And Great Britain is more often than not used to mean the whole of England/Scotland/Wales, excluding Northern Ireland - a legacy of the Kingdom of Great Britain, which existed from 1707 to 1800. It's good work (and the previous set). In 1977 two Class 47 locomotives, 47163 and 47164, were painted by Stratford TMD with silver roofs and other decorations including a full body height Union Flag on each side, in celebration of Queen Elizabeth II's silver jubilee. Do you think we should use different colours for regions like we sort of have now, https://twitter.com/_doublearrow/status/1455113527954493474/photo/1. The livery comprised brown upper panels with a colour described variously as "biscuit" or "fawn" along the lower panels and separated by a broad orange band. The attachments illustrate this. In 1956 an all-over darker maroon, which more closely resembled the pre-nationalisation LMS livery, was re-introduced, except for the Southern Region, where locomotive-hauled stock was generally painted 'coaching stock' green (from July 1956-on) and a small number of express carriages on the Western Region which were in traditional GWR-style chocolate and cream. And the more I see RA2 and its symbols, the more clumsy it looks. The first break in the uniformity of Rail Blue came in 1976 with the introduction of the first InterCity 125 (HST). Standing on the sidelines of national politics and shouting is just what capital-U Unionism does now. Another Class 52, No.D1015 Western Champion was delivered in another, darker yellow/brown colour described as 'Golden Ochre', though somewhat different from that applied to D5579. [8][9], A fortnight before the WilliamsShapps Plan for Rail was unveiled, the Department for Transport gave notice of a 6.5million contract for Deloitte up to February 2023 as its "strategic change delivery partner: rail reform programme". | Page 23 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. Because it's not going to be the same as BR. Class 35 'Hymek' D7017 restored to 1960's green & lime livery. At the moment, the TOC mostly differentiates this. Great Central Railway {} Sample: 002366: Great Eastern Railway {} Sample: 00a550: Great Northern Railway (Great Britain) {{GNGE colour}} Sample: 00645b: Great Northern and Great Eastern Joint Railway {{GWGC colour}} Sample: 47640f: Great Western and Great Central Joint Railway {} Sample: 964b00: Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway A commonly mistake to make, but one that can easily upset the locals! into flashy advertising campaigns, the appearance of the showrooms (and their digital counterpart, the website), and the styling of their vehicles? I still think" Great British Railways" will be mostly likely be termed GBR, most of the time. InterCity (or, in the earliest days, the hyphenated Inter-City) was introduced by British Rail in 1966 as a brand-name for its long-haul express passenger services (see British Rail brand names for a full history).. Find out more Contact us Freedom of Information Jobs at GBRTT Media Sign up for GBRTT News Privacy and GDPR Terms and conditions There just isn't room on a well functioning railway for true competition, so you might as well focus on the passenger experience, not the rail operator experience. We need more national institutions to give a British shape to life, and GBR should be one of them. It highlighted different ways in which Westminster could invest in Britain's strategic transport network to better-integrate the nation. However many people were not happy with the loss of the traditional "historic" regional colour schemes as used by the former private companies. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; Heh. Western. Unfortunately, there is little sign that Beattie actually intends to do anything differently, in this regard at least, to the Democratic Unionists he hopes to supplant. GBR is currently running a competition to find a town or city outside London to host its headquarters. Great Britain (or just Britain) is the mainland of England, Scotland and Wales. [6], The Vale of Rheidol Railway remained steam operated past the general end of steam traction in 1968; Accordingly the three remaining Vale of Rheidol Railway steam locomotives (Class 98) received the Rail Blue colour scheme and the double arrow logo on their side tanks. Great Western Railways/British Railway Western Region. [10], Andrew Haines and Peter Hendy, the current CEO and chairman of Network Rail respectively, are overseeing the establishment of GBR. [5][6], The new GBR organisation was proposed under the WilliamsShapps Rail Review,[7] which was published as a white paper on 20 May 2021. British Railways was formed in 1948, it was divided into geographical regions loosely based on the pre-war Big Four company areas, Scotland became a region on its own and the former LNER area was divided into North Eastern and Eastern Regions. A number of sets of coaching stock and a handful of locomotives received the livery, as well as most new multiple units and some existing ones. I personally do not think there should be a standard livery across the network on the grounds that regional identity would be lost. Because for my money blue & grey is not the "same basic livery" as Swallow, neither is NSEs toothpaste anything like the red and cream worn in the 50s. From 1974, some DMU sets, after being refurbished, were painted white with a wide blue band under the windows and full yellow ends. Copyright 2023 Great British Railways Transition Team. GBR will develop masterplans for station renewal. It was formed from the nationalisation of the Big Four British railway companies, and was privatised in stages between 1994 and 1997. In 1978 the British Railways Board began planning a new livery for the future, and in that August Class 56 diesel locomotive 56036 was painted to test a modified livery[11][12] of all-over Rail Blue with the entire loco front in bright yellow to improve visibility, this extending down the sides of the loco to the rear of the cab windows which were, in turn, outlined in black. I don't think there would ever be multiple logos for Great British Railways as you've alluded to - it would make it complicated for the end passenger. Launched as the London & South East Sector "Express Livery" this was a short-lived scheme which appeared on a limited amount of units and routes before the advent of Network SouthEast's "toothpaste" red white and blue striped livery. [2] It was a dark, greyish blue tone which hid the effects of dirt well. During 2020, in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic, all passenger train operating companies (TOCs) entered into Emergency Recovery Measures Agreements with the UK and Scottish Governments. In May 2022, the Government announced proposed legislation to modernise rail services and improve reliability for passengers. Incorrect: Britain and Great Britain are synonymous, referring to either the largest island of the British Isles (in a geographical context) or the countries of England, Scotland and Wales (in a political context). The coaches for the XP64 train were painted in a slightly lighter version of what would eventually become Rail Blue, with a 44-inch-wide (1,100mm) Pale Ivory stripe centred on the passenger windows, and brown underframe. All Class 42 "Warship" class diesels were delivered in green but some Class 52s were delivered in maroon to match the then-standard coaching stock livery. I quite like that version; I think I might like it even more if the black and the red were blue instead though. Make the name central and it'd be perfect. But do we really want to go back to that? In 1957 this changed to maroon with yellow markings and in 1963 bauxite with white lettering was adopted. Free delivery for many products! The Blue Pullman sets retained their livery of Nanking Blue (albeit with full yellow ends) until 1969 when they were repainted in the reversed grey and blue livery. [17] This livery is also often nicknamed 'toothpaste livery' by rail enthusiasts due to the multicoloured stripes resembling striped toothpaste. | Page 15 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. I wonder if you could make a hybrid of the two? BR's first standard locomotive liveries, adopted from 1949 onwards. A High Speed Train power car (loco) and coach in InterCity swallow livery. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. But we know that anyway - ScotRail is blue based, as was Regional Railways. The x-height of the lower-case lettering should be equal to the height of the horizontal arms in the symbol, so that the row of text appears to align with them. Job done. The Union Jack will represent. I'll give you an opportunity to make up a better more modern scheme then. It will also control the contracting of passenger train services, the setting of fares and timetables, and the collection of fare revenue, with the exception of services wholly within Scotland and Wales. Now there's a system others can look up to. for some form of co-branding. The current lot is an absolute mess. 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