Outside of buckshot and slugs, they all send a lot of shot downrange, right? They seem to be slightly shorter than the 3" Cheddites I bought though. Cut a Federal Field & Range branded plastic hull with paper basewad in half and youll have no trouble spotting the difference. Seems that Cheddites are very standard and never change. Modern hulls are made from plastic, though some target loads with paper hulls can still be purchased. (The flashlight is the (Yes, these note what is written on the shell casing itself (either on the top wad or 1) (4K). Remington FIELD hulls are all over the lot. The color, size and type of primer used The guess is that UMC manufacturers used a steel base instead of brass, during WWII. But STS/NITRO 27 are best. company listings), AMERICAN BUCKLE and CARTRIDGE CO Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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I just stick with Remington and leave it alone. Part of the sales logic was the hull was a favorite of You may still have a small pinhole in the final crimp, but the crimp will be tight. (red & Blue Semi-automatic and striker-fired, the P320-XTEN is extremely accurate, easy to shoot even with powerful 10mm loads and holds 15-plus-one rounds. Just toss them in the trash. Shotguns using 11, 15, 18, 2, and 3 gauge shells are the rarest of all the shotguns, and shotshells for these are no longer manufactured. company in to Winchester Western Division of the Olin Industries), MORE US hurled as far as the reloader can fling them. the wind. Winchesters AA branded HS plastic is a great example of a tapered hull. Thanks. Its the best choice for most hunting. modifications in the internal capacities or overall lengths. *, Fiocchi USA (Fiocchi In In this article, were going to take a look at what makes a quality hull for reloading, including body construction, basewad material and hull wall shape. H.B Fisher (Same as $17.98. Rule#2. For other manufactures, the A There is no internal "ring-around-the-collar" and they I play a bit with the Top Gun and seem to have excellent results. With an increase in gauge and shell length comes an increase in the number of pellets itll hold. primer and the shell case. Then again, plastic hulls must contain those pressures. Mandan (Creedmore Cartridge Co.)1890 I think I have figured out the difference between the tapered and straight wall, but there are so many different hulls it gets confusing. This should help get you started on the road to selecting the best hulls available in your area, as well as ensuring you understand the limitations and challenges associated with each of them. The shell may be loaded with a slug or shot (size 0000 all the way up This is mainly And you want all your finished shells to be the same length regardless of any small differences in them prior to loading. hull specification changes or variances. It will appear to fit just fine, but the smaller shell can lodge in the barrel. Headstamps in the load. Always follow manufacturer guidelines for shell length requirements for your shotgun. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); The Reloaders Networkfocuses on firearms, shooting sports, reloading, bullet casting, and the related gear and accessories. Lucky McDaniel, http://www.duckhuntingchat.com/foru338&p=2060404&hilit=+1+3/8+remington#p2060404, http://www.maxam.net/en/outdoors/what_we_do/cartridges. $17.98. Hope this helps you out and break em all Jeff grntitan Registered hulls. Since shotgun recoil increases as the muzzle velocity increases, wise shooters take care not to use ammunition with velocities significantly higher than that required for the intended use. Understand what you are doing and why it must be done in a specific manner . Primed hulls do not require a hazmat fee with standard ground shipping. Ballistic Products features a full range of shotshell reloading supplies. ALL Remington hulls load the same as do the older Win CF hulls. I think the thing that will separate the tall from the small will be the bases coming off the plastic tubes. Wives never miss when they shoot at their husbands. This is getting rich. The casing may be paper, plastic or metal (usually brass, Headstamps may have one or both of the markings listed. Is there a more current way to ID hulls than my Lyman #5 manual? Mogul or Superior Guaranteed (M.W Savage Factories Inc), Steel Lined Jeff. JavaScript is disabled. Therman Hermann. purchased by Dupont (Rem-UMC), Penguin Leet or C.D.L Springfield Mass(Same name). Concerning pellet sizes, they run from 0000 to No. headstamps: N.Y.C and NY Club. The use of lead is increasingly being banned due to environmental concerns, however. I've been very happy with every Cheddite load I've ever tried and never have to worry about digging through the trash to find them, LOL. What makes this so important is that the diameter of shotshell wads/gas seals can vary. Although plastic remains the most popular by far, there are also paper and even metal basewads out there. Hi Cerberus, Yes it should be. Shotgun-suitable propellants can be found in single- and double-base formulations with differing physical characteristics (i.e. used to represents the shell type or lot by some manufactures, for others it With some slugs, such as Winchesters 20-gauge Dual Bond, in a Savage Model 220 slug gun, Ive seen accuracy thatll rival a better-than-average rifle at 100 yards. the actual maker is. written on the casing) to aid in the identification of the shell. Ideal to #12 or dust shot),with the marked THREE-INCH may be shorter than 3-inches! This can make identification challenging at times, which is why savvy reloaders will often employ a flashlight when checking what type of hull they have in front of them. - 1912*, - 4 lead was once the standard for ducks, steel No. cartridge Identification requires the identification of both the headstamp, Really good manual too. The larger the number, the smaller the shell diameter. Champion (Blachford Cartridge Works, cases by WRA Co. Let's start with what we know: If you're reading Ned S. There`s a hull I.D. As weve already discussed, the basewad is the internal portion at the bottom of a shotshell hull. PropellantWhen compared to modern, center-fire rifle cartridges, shotshells operate at relatively low pressures. The unibody hulls are one extruded piece of plastic with a brass casehead. apparently. Ive never encountered a metal basewad before so for me, plastic is the preferred choice. WSL internal capacities. This design is prized by reloaders since the internal base of the hull is actually molded from the hull body, making it extremely durable and strong (no seams). The "Turtle & Snake" Lyman 5th Edition Shotshell Reloading Handbook list this hull as: Remington STS Premier Plastic - 12 Gauge 2-3/4" Hodgdon Basic Reloading Manual list this hull as: Remington STS, OR Nitro 27, OR Gun Club Plastic Shells - 12 Gauge 2-3/4" Cheddite 12 Ga. 3" Primed, Skived, 16mm High Metal Head Red Hull (Qty 100) Permanent Link to Product Page $24.99 12 Ga (Fred Biffar & Co.), Fowler Pictures of Sears Headstamps A coating of nickel atop a copper-plated pellet creates the Holy Grail of lead shotdue to their slickness, nickel-plated pellets penetrate deeply, making them ideal for tough game such as pheasants, turkey and, in buckshot, big game. You will see a shattered (one shot did it) lunar Wolf hulls are 1 1/4 oz of 6 at 1330 fps. in brackets is Even the mighty 3-inch 12-gauge only has a maximum average pressure (MAP) of 14,000 psi. HUNTER ARMS COMPANY 1934 Dupont buys out Rem-UMC & Peters to form Remington Arms Co. the plastic or paper hull as well as the case size and the size of the brass rim Often the original color or brand name may continue on overall hull lengths. (Please note: bronze, the NITRO 27. Estate Cartridge (Estate (purchased Wire split hulls and whole hulls to a piece of Luan paneling with Identification as you get the hulls. If a wad made for straight-walled cases is used by mistake, the base or support legs may become crushed or deformed, raising pressure, and impacting accuracy. (1922 to present. 100% wool felt cushion wads are used inside the shot cup under the shot to fill unoccupied space in the hull. Perhaps think about hurling these hulls. Cut one of these in half, and youll immediately see that the basewad is clearly made from a separate piece of plastic. 1 or smaller. I just haven't run them on the chrony to see how the perform. 5s and No. H.S.B & Co. -, PETERS 050-24352 | Remington. (American Gun Implement Co.). Develop a reloading routine and follow it; 7. As the name implies, the walls are essentially completely straight. Can you give us a pic of the shell base? Load data is not interchangeable. Promotional hulls are always suspect, because the metal of the head is Full shells are Link, SEARS Dates after company name indicates known - Winchester FIELD hulls usually follow expected lengths and depths but changes are in Today was a great day for shooting.. 93 out of 100, an excellent day for me. Its important to remember that paper basewads are not waterproof, meaning if you pick these up off the ground, they could be soggy from rain or dew. I'm assuming that, because I have one in my other hand from when they first came out and they are definitely different. Thats where lead-free materials come in. with a higher brass head to protect against burn through. (Penguin Industries {Flares, teargas and Twinshot}), RAS (Robert A Smith. (1894-1900), C.A Co. its a goner. If youre using a rifled choke or smoothbore and shooting at limited range, the older-type slugs will work fine. I use the same exact compenents when reloading AA's and Remingtons. Chilled shot is commonly employed in economical game or target loads found at big-box stores. If a correctly sized shell is then placed in the shotgun and fired, an extremely dangerous barrel rupture will occur. 10 and 16-gauge shotshells are rare, though they're still being manufactured. Eley (John Krider)1845-1916. ShotShot can be made from a variety of materials. (1959 -present, Most 12-gauge shells contain 1 ounce, 1 1/8-ounce, or 1-ounce loads. HULLS (In General) Shotshells, or those sometime strange empty hulls are produced in four general categories. Ugly! made by Geo Hart). Boss (New Company, not the same as These hulls are produced headstamp is used on Winchester Standard loads, Winchester Magnum loads, Do you know what the numbers on the top of a shotgun shell box mean? Hard, copper-plated pellets better maintain their shape, and their smooth surface is less likely to snag feathers that lessen penetration. (E Remington: LOL Jackie B. and sometimes it is a no. 20 Gauge 1 oz Hunting Shotshell Wads Power Piston One-Piece 250 count. If a wad made for a tapered case were used by mistake, the base may not completely cover the powder charge, resulting in greatly reduced velocity, power, and accuracy. Pat (date) Newark, NJ or E Hart (Geo Hart & Co.)1873 That 3.5" one that bassmaster posted isn't even the traditional integral basewad hull! Original steel loads performed abysmally due to a gross misunderstanding of the material. The second number is the length of the shell after it has been fired, and is normally measured in inches. Below is a guide to the various straight wall hulls found in the US Domestic Market and Internationally. Felt wads are used to maintain a full load to ensure a better crimp. UNIQUE Made for some special purpose and for limited use. Holiday An easy-to-use conversion table can be found on the internet. The exception is premium target loadsagain STS and AA HS. I have seen the 2 pcs plastic 3 1/2" Federal hull bassmaster has a pic. turkeys). I wonder if they have changed that hull also. Snap Caps, Savage Superior ( M.W Savage factories Inc.), Selby, Gauge can also vary, Higher-than-normal heads (i.e. In a one-piece design, this will be molded right into the plastic; in a two-piece design, the taper generally starts inside the basewad. often the box is the only surefire way to date and truly ID the shell. Since the ban of lead for waterfowling, manufacturers have steadily introduced replacement materials for lead. Slowing the forward momentum, and thus a release of the shot, is a flaring skirt (or petals) integral to the gas seal and, in the case of the Versatite, three mid-body petals. HullsThe hull is to the shotshell what the case (or brass) is to the metallic cartridgeits the holder of the components. some have circles For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. With basewad materials out of the way, its time to take a look at hull wall shape. WadsThe wad is an especially critical component of the shotshell, as it serves several functions. Safe shotgun shooters only carry ammunition that matches the shotgun they are using. Refine by Gauge: 12 Gauge 10 Gauge . Identification Product form : Article Product name : Shotshell Hulls, Empty, Primed 1.2. Hull I.D. 20A also exists in greater quantities in the 18 Gauge. This is arguably the most important factor in determining a hulls suitability for reloading. From 1866 to 1932 operated as The Winchester Repeating Like propellants for metallic cartridges, those for shotshells vary according to burn rate. Having the right tools at hand can make or break your outdoor adventure! In 1932 became Winchester Although Ive never personally experienced (or even met anyone who has), the fact is that damaged basewads can theoretically become separated from the hull and wind up lodged in the barrel of your gun. Additionally, hunters found they had to select a larger shot size to achieve parity to leadwhereas the No. I have some of the old original RXP hulls that preceded them. This tool is designed as a handheld unit allowing the user to quickly and consistently trim shotshell hulls down to popular standard sizes like 3, and 2 3/4, as well as popular non-standard sizes such as 2 1/2 and 1 3/4. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. and a micrometer with a depth gauge. Norwestern (Northwest Cartridge Co.)1956-1957, N.Y.C gauge (A.L Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. or Steel Nitro or Steel Special (Chicago Arms Co.), Stoeger New Winchesters Universal branded polyformed plastic hulls with plastic basewads are an excellent example of a modern, two-piece design. For example, Federal Premium uses roll crimps on its Heavyweight TSS and Grand Slam offerings. Any hull marked "BUCKSHOT" is immediately suspect of purchased by Winchester Western) Refine by Gauge: 28 Gauge 20 Gauge. I have made a best effort to identify the OEM manufacturer of branded hulls through published information but shot shell manufacturers may from time to time source hulls from more than one hull supplier. All Federal hulls Even vintage Winchester wads do not fit SHOTSHELL GUIDE EDITION 2.1 Western Powders, Inc. PO Box 158 Miles City, Montana 59301 406-234-0422 www.ramshot.com www.accuratepowder.com . (1887 to 1916) Cheddite 10ga 3-1/2 (86mm) hulls (50/bag) Item #: 1391035. This is loaded in premium target and hunting shells. (Bridgeport Brass Co. and WRA Co. made)1884-1894*. While its true that aside from brass height, most shotshell hulls look very similar, the fact is that not all hulls are created equal. Recommended sizes for use in your shotshell wads: 20 Ga. Wads for 10 & 12 Ga. Hulls 28 Ga. Wads for 16 Ga. Hulls 32 Ga. Wads for 20 Ga. Hulls .410 Wads for 28 Ga. Hulls We'll see who stands tall and who is small. ), Gamebore White Gold, JSR, Gamebore Steal, Eley CT20, Hull Cartridge Pro 20 and Game with Cheddite primers BUT a few of the new high brass White Golds have needed the Fiocchi primers. well as shells loaded by many different companies. used surplus 20 gauge shells to make the experimental 18 gauge shells. information cannot keep up with Remingtons many modifications. Some boxes of modern ammunition may contain a velocity indicator: Dr. The plastic base ones are a .090" with only a raised portion right around the primer. assessment and it is too much for this summary. Made by Fiocchi, V.L & A, Chicago PROMOTIONAL HULLS - Generally of cheap construction.