Very happy with my Zutano. The skin is green when ripe, is bumpy and of medium thickness, and peels easily. Ive never had a tree-matured Sir Prize. It's the plant hormone ethylene, which occurs . Perhaps if youre willing to protect your tree during occasional cold spells in winter, especially during the first couple winters, youll have success. Sharwil The most popular Hawaiian avocado and the only one certified for shipping to the mainland, Sharwil avocados are relatively large, green-skinned fruits descended from both Guatemalan and Mexican trees. Haha. Most of them dont usually produce as well in such climates as A types. I was originally thinking of two avocado trees to go along with the Meyer Lemon and Black Mission Fig, but this post is making me think it should be three. It is pear-like in shape and has dark skin when ripe. But Ill definitely write profiles of them when I feel like I know them well enough. Hass beats almost everyone at the length of its harvest season. I cant speak from personal experience about my own Sharwil trees because theyre too young, so this guess is based on what Ive seen in others Sharwil trees in Southern California. Im really benefiting from your observations. I love old trees like that. What comes to mind is that Fuerte has a more distinctive flavor. Yet the tree is smaller in that it is an upright instead of a large spreading type, the fruit are small but turn black when ripe (about the size of tiny hass found 8 in a bag), and the tree is a heavy producer (at least it was this time). Also, what are your thoughts on a multi-variety grafted tree? I watered it every day, but the young tree literally burnt alive and became all black in just one month. Peterson.) GEM. So since youre buying from Subtropica, Id get any clonals they have, if available, and then plan to wrap the trunk next winter to protect the rootstock and graft union area from cold. I am thinking Dusa for Hass (everyone says that Hass avocado grafted on Dusa is more productive than on Duke 7) But I have no idea about Reed, because no scientific study mentions Reed (I guess this is because it is not a commercial variety anymore). I have been trying to research this for a while now trying to figure out the best combination for me. Taste Ive read is great. Is there something I can do to prevent the drop, or is it just survival of the fittest? Forgive my rambling. It will be in the first week of October. For those who have a large yard, Martin. Then why isnt Fuerte my top choice? Even in warm-winter locations it doesnt always bear as well as some A types. Thanks for the articles; Im finding them to be a wonderful resource. Together you will get year round fruit, theyre small for avocado trees and better tasting than what you find in stores. If you can, I would go with those combinations. Oliver Atkins, the founder of the nursery, was the longtime chair of the Variety Committee of the California Avocado Society. Ive been looking at farmers markets in San Diego, no luck so far. Im in Van Nuys, which is Sunset Zone 18. This is the experience of many others as well. The wood is soft, the leaves are soft. I think they do not sell avocado trees on Dusa in nurseries, because it is still under licence (I had to pay a bit more for the patent and had to communicate to Brokaw the addresses of the orchards). I read through your post on protecting avocados from the cold, so well be prepared for the cold nights next winter. Thanks again for all the information. From your experience what avocado tree should I plant? 1. If I couldnt find a Reed, Id substitute with a Lamb. Some percentage of fruitlet drop always happens, due to incomplete pollination and other unknown factors. Sharwil avocados have a dense, nutty flavor and a high oil content. I enjoy your videos! I am familiar with Fuertes history and that it grows wide making dense planting difficult and that some years the production is very low. I moved mine into a barrel. The Hass has a lot on it and both the other trees have some as well. USDA Certified Production Facility: Volume up to 6,000 lbs. As for rootstocks, I havent seen them make a difference in my yard in terms of cold tolerance of the tree as a whole. The challenge Ive heard others in your area having is with occasional cold snaps in winter (taken care of by your greenhouse) and such cool spring weather that B types dont set much fruit. Youve already got some great varieties growing there. Thank you so much. You just need to make sure that you plant on a mound. We have a large greenhouse and I was hoping you could suggest some avocados that might be easier to grow and fruit here? I would plant a Hass and a Reed if I were you. I thought you could know more about avocado rootstocks, reading articles is one thing, but having an avocado tree orchard is another))))), Also, Duke 7 and Dusa are highly tolerant to Phytophthora (Duke 7 is tolerant to Phytophthora citricola and Dusa to Phytophthora cinnamomi). Thanks again. I was considering planting coastal live oak at first but now leaning towards fruit (avocado) tree instead. I like the way you put that. Sharwil is the best tasting avocado in the world according to some - better even than Hass. each month This is finally my update. If I was going to do it again here in the Southern Vic, I'd just go for Hass and Reeds mostly with maybe three Bacons and an Ettinger for a pollinator. Thank you for your great thoughts on Avos! Thanks for the feedback. Designed by Elegant Themes | Powered by WordPress, If the only Hass avocados youve had are from the grocery store, then you have no idea. This might be different for you though; it probably depends on your particular microclimate. Years ago when I started planting it was hard to find out what to grow up here. It has set more fruit while young than most of my other varieties. made to the U.S. Mainland and beyond, with the eventual eye toward gaining approval to ship. I think youre absolutely right not to share more about this tree. You saved my sanity! Whats your take on planting it as the only Avocado tree in my yard? I listen for the sound of a chainsaw. The challenge is that many of them have similar harvest seasons, which are spring into summer: Hass, Sharwil, GEM, Gwen. Robert. Edranol, Ettinger, Hass, Sharwil and Zutano were mid-season flowerers. The problem is that theres so much to say. Who grew it, any idea? The main reason Id choose Reed is that its harvest season complements the Hass. They should do well for you. Otherwise other avocado nuts (like myself) might annoy the generous owners of the mother tree. Craig. Great article, Im planting a reed, hass and fuerte. So I decided to plant a Hass and a Sir Prize which sounded like a great variety. We made and wholesaled guacamole on Kauai, Hawaii for 10 years. This is great news that you found and planted so many trees in Portugal! I really appreciate reading your expert advice and opinion about your experiences. SOLD OUT FOR 2022. (I dont have any other varieties available in local nurseries, hence the limited choice..). Gwen isnt the toughest of my avocado trees, for sure. The tree is around 12 ft. (Not that Pinkerton avocados arent delicious though. They grow great but just dont produce as much fruit. Hass is amazing in this way. Eventually we could put up a larger greenhouse, but Im hoping that we can proceed without having to do that. I have a Hass that is a few years old from Durling Nursery. I cant live without one of the Mexicola types. Im leaning toward Gwen or Reed for a fall producer, and Holiday, Pinkerton or Wertz for winter production. . I would recommend buying a new and healthy tree within the next month and planting it straight away no keeping it for months on your deck first. They seem to be especially common on trees in your neighborhood. In fact the tree might be a hundred years old and is easily 60 feet tall or larger. Not sure exactly what that is. (See more about Lamb in my post, The Lamb/Hass avocado tree: a profile.). I have a space there where its convenient for them to dump. The three more Guatemalan types get afternoon shade which I think helps since in recent years our summers are very intense much like inland Riverside and or Redlands as I recall with temperatures reaching well over a 100 more often than a decade ago. Once you exclude the fiber, a whole avocado is simply 2.6 grams of net carbs. Just so you and other readers know, my yard is in inland San Diego County near the town of Ramona. But the intention is to have overlapping seasons for both A and B type so there is always cross pollination available (I know that doesnt guarantee it will work, but I like the idea of having that potential). Hass is the most widely planted variety in the world for good reason. June of this year I topped them at 8 feet, The Gem is still at 8 feet but the other two want to grow to the moon. We might be on to something. Wonder what that was all about. As for the snow, we have had quite a bit of ice the last few weeks, and today it snowed in parts of the mountains, even in the valley (Pasadena/Rancho Cucamonga)! It is a heavy regular bearer, with fruit averaging 10 to 18 ounces with skin black when ripe. For example, Ive got some avocado trees planted at 7.5 feet apart, and thats a spacing that some commercial growers use. Or maybe scratch all those and go with GEM or Gwen? Hi Greg, In my (very limited) gardening experience, I noticed that choosing the right variety is not everything, one has to be sure it will function well in the conditions ones got. I wanted to say I appreciate all you do with your website and videos. For more information visit the NZ Avocado Industry Ltd website or phone 0800 AVOCADO / 0800 286 2236. Of the more than 275,000 acres that nurture Mexican avocados, the hands-down favorite is the Hass avocado, with is creamy, nutty flavor. BACK IN STOCK APRIL 2023. Out of those choices, I would go with Fuerte just because it has the most potential for cross-pollination with Pinkerton. Thank you for sharing your knowledge freely and generously. 'Greengold' and 'Murashige' are other green-skinned cultivars recommended by CTAHR for commercial planting. I just cant say for sure. Hass and Reed as numbers one and two are solid for me. Multi-grafted avocado trees can work. No matter your choice, Im excited for you to get a tree or a couple going in your yard. They grow far better in the mild temperatures near the beach than they do in my yard which is twenty miles from the ocean. Hardiness: Average to 28F. I hope that in a few years I can have more avocado than I can eat! Zutano, The last tree has very little green although it does look like new green. I was surprised this past weekend that I found the Lowes in La Mirada had 10 Reeds in 5 gallon containers. Yes, you can definitely graft several varieties onto one tree. And youre right about the tree looking weird, but it works. So with just these two trees, Id have the highest quality avocados in the world for most months of the year. We will sell trees at various ages and transport to other islands. The global Hass Avocado market is projected to reach USD million by 2028 from an estimated USD million in 2022, at a CAGR of Percent during 2023 and 2028. Reed, See if you can find a Reed to try again in September and youll probably get a richer flavor from it. A whole avocado contains around 11.8 grams of carbs ( 1 ). The fruit must be of good size. If you want to know how to kill an avocado tree, ask me Ive done it all. Better now than never. On the other hand, he plants GEM at 10 feet because it is less vigorous than Hass. Hi Greg, Unfortunately, people here seldom grow avocados, it is just not in our culture which is strange, because people do eat avocados a lot, and you find them in every supermarket. The fruit has the same thick, pebbly skin as the Hass but has a little rounder shape. Is that too far away? If I couldnt find a Reed, Id substitute with a Lamb. It appears similar to Fuerte. Oval-shaped and dark-green in color, the Choquette avocado originated in Florida and is a mix of two different types - Guatemalan and West Indian. Were getting a couple of avocado trees to plant in Pasadena. Kona Sharwil Avocado. Also my grandfather said growing up in Los Angeles they had Mcarthur avocados, Have you ever heard of them? Seemed very mature, almost overmature, as the seed had germinated and the root was touching the peel on the bottom, and the seedcoat did not adhere to the seed. Thank you! As I recall, the Tijuana River valley is where they were first noticed some years back. Wrapping the trees creates an oven. Just a couple days ago, I visited the largest organic avocado orchard in California, and they recently planted a lot of Sharwil trees. The Hass Avocado. I could swear that I read somewhere that Reed trees will get very tall if left unpruned. But a number of old Fuertes remain, and like for you, the taste of Fuerte remains the original avocado flavor for me. Thats a fun project. (Both Reed and Hass produce more than Fuerte in my yard.) So keep that in mind. Started producing at 3? Lots of dieback when it reached 117F for 3 days. Avocado - Hass (A Flowering Variety): Possibly the most popular of all avocados, Hass bears incredibly flavoursome fruits that keep well. Ive only eaten them once though, a handful of years ago up in Carpinteria. Do you think I should remove the one tree which has a few new green shoots? Greg, this is a great thread, thank you. The Hass is a medium spreading tree, whereas the Reed is more upright in stature. Hi Greg, your posts are so helpful! Fuerte and Nabal are both well known for alternating in this way. Miuch like Citrus, Palm and Catus mix. I wanted to tell you that it appears that there is a Fuerte/Hass cross in Lafayette which is in the bay but just over the hills and away from the fog. Carlsbad is an awesome place to grow avocados. Ive visited avocado trees only as far north as the Bay Area. https://gregalder.com/yardposts/avocado-trees-get-sunburned-what-to-do/ When I walk around my neighborhood here in Sylmar, Its amazing how most people abuse their avocado trees by having their gardeners rake up those leaves as soon as they hit the ground. The owners are nice and said I welcomed to the tree. But its good to keep in mind that the trees are small so you cant expect them to produce as much as fast as a vigorous variety like Hass especially when the Holiday fruit are much larger than Hass. Ive heard people say that too, but Ive never found evidence for it. Thank you in advance for your assistance. I am really lost on here. Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window). . Grows the best long-term in the ground. Im guessing it was the chlorine that did the damage. On your south-facing slope it might not be as happy. Maybe you would say Reed or Fuerte to graft instead of Lamb? This is according to these articles of course. About 8 miles inland in Southern Sonoma County. Contemplated stopping by Fallbrook and talking to a grower, but returning on Sunday meant I was a bit eager to get home. Due to the protracted nature of avocado flowering in this region, all varieties had some degree of cross-over. I have a Reed on Dusa that is doing very well. This will help me determine where i will plant it. Ive seen numerous examples of this throughout Southern California. I dont know of any other commercial avocado grove with many Sharwils, unfortunately. Hass beats almost everyone at the length of its harvest season. The flesh is very oily, rich and creamy tasting. I will send you some wood. Thank you!! Im about to head to subtropica nursery to buy three trees. Hey Greg, Ive got two Hass and one Fuerte. Yes, I like Nabal. (I have to confess this is a real problem of our nation.. No information whatsoever about rootstocks in the nurseries And then people are surprised that their cherry or apricot trees dont fruit). Pinkerton Avocado. Thank you! It is very helpful! Im also wondering if I might be happier going with a pair of smaller trees that let me enjoy avocados closer to year-round. Would you say these are still your top 3? I tried it 2 days in row. Thank you for your response and info. Its just easier to maintain over the long haul. After some pool renovations which sent torrents of pool water into the avo area two of the trees are completely dead. Yes, before asking you about the rootstocks, I checked if there was anything about avocado rootstocks on The Yard Posts! I dont want to overstep my welcome to the tree. Kona Sharwil avocado was introduced in Australia and is now a major commercial variety in Hawaii. I am not gaining anything just want the world to have another Fuerte variety available to them. Greg, youre awesome! So, I found an avocado variety calendar, on gregalder.com, https://gregalder.com/yardposts/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/IMG_20170831_071354-1-e1504273347755.jpg, https://gregalder.com/yardposts/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/WP_20160104_09_07_06_Pro.jpg, but I am still struggling and have no idea what second variety would be the best choice. I just dont understand it. Compared to Hass, its harvest season isnt quite as long. I will tell you later how my adventure is going! There are 3 different groups of avocados, depending on where you live -- CA, FL and Hawaii. Only Fuerte tastes good then, of those youve mentioned. I was given permission and I will get you some budwood hopefully within a year. Sorry to hear about the decline of such a wonderful tree. Guacamole heaven! Thank you so much for your response. Plant a couple little vegetables in the spot to see how they do before planting new avocado trees. They are located in Fallbrook, and possibly in 2020 theyll start selling Sharwils. So surprised I bought one to see how well it works as a hedge as you mentioned in another article. I would call them and see about buying trees from them if you have trouble locating trees elsewhere. Hass has the wonderful ability to mature its fruit and then hold them on the tree for many months, waiting for you to pick them. If I had the space for three avocado trees, I would add a Fuerte to the mix. But Mexicola is about as small as avocados come, so in that way youve already got your lunchbox avocado. Hi, i was gifted a Nabal Avocado tree for xmas and before i plant it in the ground, i was wondering what its growing habits are? I know Sunland, and I can empathize with how you and your avocados feel. The trees are doing spectacularly, especially the Nabal with 18 almost baseball size avocados on it. 1 year old Bacon on Zutano seedling reading on other forums, ive seen comments that its better in the long run to plant a smaller size tree (3 gallon +) compared to a larger 15+ gallon size tree.that the smaller size tree will out perform and out grow the larger gallon size in the future. We also have a Cate Macadamia tree in the backyard which is doing excellent. Taste Ive read is great. Avocado trees produce thousands of flowers and only about one in 5000 sets fruit. The fruit is set in huge numbers uniformly throughout the tree. So sorry to have somehow missed your earlier comment. ), (See more about Fuerte in my post, The Fuerte avocado tree: a profile.). As I learnt that planting an A-type and a B-type only encreased crops by 20%, I thought it would be smarter to plant a second tree that would be fruiting when Hass does not, allowing me to have avocados almost all year long, as ou describe in your article. Hass does really well in cool climates. A handsome tree to about 9m x 10m, Hass is fairly cold and frost tolerant once established, and will bear its delicious fruit between September and January. Greg, The big difference: these avocados have significantly less fat. On that note, I should mention a post that I wrote a couple summers ago after my yard reached 109.8 degrees one day. Awesome, Rachael! If you knew a lot about your soil, then you could make a better guess as to which rootstock is likely to perform best, but I wouldnt worry about that. Eli also sells his avocados at farmers markets, and the one closest to you is in Corona Del Mar. In the meantime, there are heaps of other varieties that are already publicly available to explore. Could you make a suggestion and where I may obtain that tree. Greg, what rootstocks would you recommend for GEM, Lamb and Bacon? This is such a good topic that it deserves the space of a full post. So if youre toward that side of Temecula, you might get Sharwils to hang on the tree a long time compared to the eastern side of Temecula. So much amazing information here youre helping me gain confidence in my dream of planting an avocado tree in our backyard. Heres a link to Miramars offerings: https://www.sandiego.gov/environmental-services/miramar/greenery/cmw#products. Ive got a Fuerte tree that Ive grafted a couple Pinkerton and Lamb branches into, but this situation is easier because I want those Pinkerton and Lamb branches to stay small and just provide pollen for the Fuerte; Im not trying to have each variety take up about a third of the canopy area. Most people are a bit lazy when it comes to tree pruning. Thanks for the detail and everything you do. If I didnt feel the need for lots of space, I would, no doubt. In case you didnt know, Im also in Ramona. I saw a fruiting avocado tree for the first time in my life. I like the combination of Pinkerton and Lamb; that makes a lot of sense in terms of tree size and complementary seasons. The Sir Prize avocado is defined primarily by a distinctive ridge along one side which becomes less noticeable when the fruit ripens. Sharwil avocados from . However, they often dont have any in stock, which means your only choice is to put in a request and wait for delivery as you noted. My Reed and Lamb trees held onto so much fruit that I later had to remove some by hand in order to prevent branches from breaking. I live against the mountains in Pasadena so it can get pretty chilly in the winter will these verities do well in my climate? I like that place, he even recommended going down to Maddocks a bit further if he didnt have what I wanted. I picked up the last Reed from Walter Andersens last week and a little Fuerte. Edranol, Ettinger, Sharwil and Zutano demonstrated a closer timing to Hass than Bacon, Fuerte and Shepard . Im in Yucaipa (barely north of the center of the city.) But for others like Hass and Reed and Sharwil, to take the ones you mentioned, they just taste like awesome avocados. Because Ive become more and more concerned about getting production from my trees since I cant afford the water otherwise, Ive been moving toward A types in general since they produce better in my yard. Also I was thinking of grafting Lamb Hass onto the Hass so I can extend that season. It even has an upright variety (seedling actually) with a spreading variety (Fuerte), and it still works. I use foam or bubble insulation to wrap the trunks of my baby trees their first winter. Id probably still go Fuerte. Good luck with the Reed. Our water on the Mesa is exceptionally hard, and Im wondering if perhaps we should try a Lamb or Reed instead, or how salt tolerant a Fuerte is? If there is excess moisture, your Hass avocado tree might suffer from root rot. Your description makes the tree and its fruit sound very appealing. Hi Greg, From what I hear it is a great tasting avocado but they dont seem to produce much up here. I havent seen it with my own two eyes growing in a location quite as hot as Norco. We live in Carlsbad, CA, which I believe is sunset zone 24. If either gets too tall for your picking needs, just give it a haircut! When you talk to them they are totally clueless. I counted 51 fruits in this picture. But I will say that it is definitely precocious in my yard. Anne. If your Reed is on Dusa and its doing well so far, then I would get those other trees on Dusa too. We dont need a shade tree (probably that was obvious. 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